that romney is not interested in getting rid of fema. do you buy it? >> uh, no, not necessarily. again, the problem with romney is, we don't know which position, from which time is actually his position. there have certainly been cuts in the republican congress to relief efforts. and i think this story really does remind us that the federal government has a role to play. the federal government can play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is for years, particularly under clinton, who really did a good job of reforming fema. we said, yeah, this is one of the things the federal government does well. and when states get into trouble like this, yes, they can do things for themselves and they do a lot of stuff for themselves. but they've got to have the fed. i think right now, he has no choice but to say, well, whatever i said before, i'm going to keep fema. >> e.j. dionne, are we going to be lacking on this campaign, if romney loses, saying, it was the 47% tsunami. that it really was that that set t